00:16:28 NAFEX: Chris, can you hear Kris better than you could hear me?
00:17:36 OurHomeFolder: Both sound good to me
00:17:47 Yan: I can hear you loud and clear. Thanks!
00:17:51 John: Sound is good here. Maybe a setting issue on Chris’s side?
00:19:36 Chris Homanics: sorry my phone was interacting with my Bluetooth in a weird way
00:21:31 Chris Homanics: parthenocarpic varieties are very common for American, especially Asian, and often with hybrid as well
00:50:49 michael s thompson: What is happening to Jerry’s orchard? Is it still in production?
00:52:11 danielkostka: Regarding pawpaws, must ready-to-use fruit be delivered to breweries, creameries, etc, or can I just deliver “mature” and teach them how to check ripeness?
00:52:25 jeanniemcconkey: What
00:53:10 OurHomeFolder: Parthenocarpic fruit in the absence of pollination will be seedless
00:53:12 Jeff Shreve: I’m going to be seeding persimmon, pawpaw, and native plums in an area that is getting selectively logged. it’s a 67 acre piece of my farm. where would be the best source for mass planting?
00:53:58 Brian Maynard: There’s a line in J Russell Smith where he states that sheep and goats won’t eat persimmon foliage and that you can just plant the, trees out in pasture without protection. Knowing my sheep and goats, I’m pretty skeptical, but I’m interested if anyone has tried it.
00:54:31 OurHomeFolder: Goats will not eat pawpaws
00:57:00 Tom Wahl, Kathy Dice: I can’t speak to persimmon leaves, but our Katahdin sheep do not eat the pawpaw leaves or twigs. They avoid them at all times.
00:59:46 Jeff Shreve: you have to watch that they don’t rub them and bend them over. my goats would bend them over to scratch.
01:00:00 Chris Gonso: Weston, I think Roseyanka is kind of “industry standard” for hybrid. I’d take a look at that.
01:00:06 OurHomeFolder: I’m growing Asian and hybrid persimmons. Two hybrids I have are Nikita’s gift and Rosseyanka. Nikita’s Gift is extremely precocious, Rosseyanka is the opposite. Can be 8-10 years to bear
01:01:17 jeanniemcconkey: Be aware that hybrids do not drop off trees, they must be cut off tree for harvest as do all asian persimmons
01:01:55 Jeff Shreve: West Virginia. they shut down their nursery
01:01:57 Marc Amante: if anyone was interested and didn’t know already, University of Missouri Center for Agroforestry has a financial evaluation tool for pawpaws on this page:https://centerforagroforestry.org/landowners/resources/marketing-economics/
01:02:23 Greta: You can buy cheaply from Missouri state nursery
01:02:44 jay bost: North Carolina Forestry has
01:02:53 danielkostka: 3/4 of persimmon seedlings will be male
01:02:57 Greta: Missouri does ship outside
01:03:08 Jeff Shreve: thank you. would Georgia genetics fair well in our climate? Virginia won’t ship out to me
01:04:09 Dan Lefever: Why do American persimmons not drop after the trees shed their leaves?
01:04:18 Chris Gonso: Male persimmon trees can sucker a lot.
01:05:01 Jens Breiland: link for ordering from missouri state nursery https://mdc.mo.gov/trees-plants/tree-seedlings/order-seedlings
01:05:11 OurHomeFolder: I have tons of clonal persimmon growing up in my fields. I’ve been able to dig some while dormant with enough root system so support it for grafting.
01:05:36 Dan Lefever: Is Prok a Russian bred variety? It is one of the earliest and most firm for fresh market handling
01:05:39 Chris Homanics: virginiana is genetically about 80% male
01:06:02 Chris Homanics: prok was selected in the states
01:06:44 Roy Ross: Is there a listing of pawpaws vs flavors?
01:06:49 danielkostka: Prok is American
01:08:10 Roy Ross: Can you graft a male branch to a female tree so as to negate the requirement for 5:1
01:09:02 OurHomeFolder: You can graft a male branch to a female tree, but that won’t give you the same ratio just having a single branch producing male flowers
01:10:31 Weston Adams: What was the website?
01:10:43 NAFEX Host – Leslie Wade: Florian
01:10:50 Weston Adams: Thanks
01:11:16 Chris Homanics: I’ll pull up the link
01:12:01 danielkostka: INGA has a Claypool evaluation spreadsheet for size, taste, ripening time, etc
01:12:12 Chris Homanics: https://www.pawpawschule.de/menu-english/
01:12:42 Chris Homanics: the list is on the sidebar on the right, can’t access it from my smart phone
01:13:46 OurHomeFolder: I’ve top worked both.
01:14:27 OurHomeFolder: I’ve done whip and tongue and cleft
01:15:05 Greta: Do people usually graft male persimmon or just allow seedlings to grow up?
01:17:08 Chris Gonso: I usually graft when seedlings are about pencil to 1″ diameter and never wait 5+ years to see if it is male or female.
01:17:42 Greta: Great.. thank you
01:18:26 Mike Ferster: Does price per pound increase/decrease/stay the same when selling whole fruit verses pulped fruit?
01:18:57 Dan Lefever: Do female trees often have some male blossoms? I have often seen single trees producing fruit with seeds with no other wild trees nearby
01:18:59 OurHomeFolder: Pulped fruit should yield higher price
01:19:47 Chris Homanics: Tom, do you notice the hermie trait show up in your Szukis progeny?
01:19:48 Mike E.: Will Paw Paws produce well if grown as an understory tree?
01:21:16 stacey: Does anyone know how Paw Paw would do in a low chill area – like the SF bay area
01:21:34 Dan Lefever: Instead of bleach for post harvest treatment, might use Procidic a citric acid product from Greenspire InternAtional in Iowa
01:22:20 danielkostka: Bees will move pollen up to 1/2 mile per Olcott-Reid
01:24:51 stacey: We have ~400 maybe
01:24:54 stacey: Some years
01:31:30 danielkostka: John Brittain sold 60-chromosone male “Loverboy” to fertilize 90-chromo female, apparently without seeds
01:32:35 jay bost: https://journals.ashs.org/hortsci/view/journals/hortsci/55/1/article-p4.xml
01:33:33 Chris Homanics: awesome stacey!
01:34:40 NAFEX Host – Leslie Wade: Thanks, Jay
01:36:43 NAFEX Host – Leslie Wade: Weston, your screen froze
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