00:14:34 Leslie Wade – NAFEX Host: Feel free to share any questions or comments in the chat.
00:31:45 Jens Breiland: My dog loves apples too
00:33:24 William Rea: Anyone aware of any Iranian red flesh varieties that ever made it into American or European repositories? I know of Bastam and Bekran
00:35:45 Gloria Bell: I’ve heard of bakran
00:37:27 Darlene Hayes: How about Tebbel Redflesh?
00:39:34 Matt Kaminsky: Derek are you growing the newly bred cranberry and/or otterson
00:40:57 Sean Turley: Gidon Coll does.
00:40:58 Brian Drake: Derek, have you grown out Bud118 rootstock to fruiting?
00:41:04 Mark Wolbers: What is the ripening date in Ohio for Red Devil?
00:42:10 Matt Kaminsky: hoping to get some testimonials about flavor from those two
00:42:31 Jens Breiland: Derek, Have you ever used surround kaolin clay fruit protectant in your orchard?
00:43:34 Darlene Hayes: The flavor of cranberry when I tried it at the Geneva repository several years ago was amazing. That’s why I put it in.
00:43:53 Tim Makepeace: Derek, do you have any FrankenTrees? (Multiple varieties on one tree?)
00:45:33 Janet B: Will this interest group meet regularly? This is a great meeting.
00:45:59 Matt Kaminsky: Laura couldn’t make the call
00:46:15 Leslie Wade – NAFEX Host: Thanks Matt
00:46:25 Kyle Rasch: Derek, do you see any correlation between red color and disease/pest resistance?
00:46:31 Mihyang Lee: Red-fleshed apples could grow up in Minnesota too?
00:46:37 Joseph Postman: A red flesh apple is being circulated in the Pacific Northwest called ‘Darlene Chapman’. May be a synonym of another variety that came from someone by this name. Do you know it? I haven’t seen fruit.
00:47:15 Darlene Hayes: I think that the Temperate Orchard Conservancy has ‘Darlene Chapman”
00:47:53 William Rea: They do
00:48:03 Alan Sax: We should develop an apple here in New England that we can call Red Sox!
00:48:36 Sean Turley: Or Red Sax, Al.
00:49:14 Matt Kaminsky: let’s go with red sax
00:49:44 David’s iPad: What is the flavor of Otterson like
00:50:40 Gloria Bell: early sept pacific northwest for red devil
00:50:40 Darlene Hayes: The Otterson I tried was less “red fruit forward”, if you will. Especially compared to Cranberry
00:50:57 Joseph Postman: The only GE apples are some non-browning ‘arctic’ apples from Canada.
00:51:07 Tim Makepeace: Can you talk a little about Roberts Crab?
00:51:38 janet: Do you know what weather leads to not-always-red apples to go red? When I was in NJ,, an orchard had some dark skinned Jonathans that some years would, on first bite, look like red plums
00:52:27 Kyle Rasch: Which rootstock do you use?
00:53:39 Tim Makepeace: When you breed for red flesh apples, do you weed out the ones that don’t have red leaves?
00:54:07 Kyle Rasch: What rate of wettable sulfur? Any thoughts on phytotoxic effects?
00:54:08 Darlene Hayes: You’d lose those from the Surprise-type line, then, Tim.
00:54:15 Matt Kaminsky: Lots of cool red fleshed seedlings that have appeared in the wild and seedling exhibition. no descriptions and names yet but the next publication is forthcoming
00:55:57 Darlene Hayes: Ettersville
00:55:58 Tom Hart: Ettersburg
00:56:07 Tom Hart: Ram bassed away recently
00:56:09 Darlene Hayes: Not high dessert. Redwood forests
00:56:16 Tom Hart: passed*
00:56:18 Darlene Hayes: Burg. Sorry, Tom
00:57:17 Tom Hart: No problem! A lot of people call it Garberville (which is 40 minutes away)
00:57:50 Mark Wolbers: We grow Almata and Winekist in Alaska.
00:58:26 Darlene Hayes: Hansen was working with Niedz. because of its cold hardiness, so should work in Minn.
00:59:31 Jens Breiland: low chill hours for california
00:59:59 Darlene Hayes: I’m in zone 9. Burford REdflesh, Arlie Red Flesh, Niedz., Pendragon, Cranberry.
01:01:11 Kyle Rasch: What are some better storing red flesh apples?
We observe darker red flesh apples getting internal browning in storage.
01:01:22 Darlene Hayes: Pink Pearl, too.
01:01:31 Jon N: Derek – Which of your favorite Reds, do you think has the best shelf/storage life? Thanks!
01:01:38 Mark Wolbers: Are red flowers in apples always associated with red fruit?
01:02:24 Janet B: what was the name of the resource that included growing apples in africa?
01:02:29 Darlene Hayes: And Surprise. The genetics are different.
01:03:01 Mark Kurzmack: I am in northern Colorado and I have found a number of red fleshed apples that were from a local nursery and planted around 1930 – 1935. I have been trying to identify them, but haven’t had any luck. As far as I can tell Etter and Hansen released there apples in the 1940s. Any ideas what these might be? They are apple size not crabapples.
01:03:11 Tom Hart: There is a purple-wood, magenta-blossomed apple at Albert Etter’s homestead that doesn’t produce red-fleshed apples. Very strange.
01:04:16 Sean Turley: Surprise is quite old, Mark, so it could be surprise or seedlings of Surprise.
01:04:18 Gloria Bell: tom – maybe it will one day 🙂
01:05:13 Janet B: California Nursery introduced Etter’s apples in 1944.
01:05:21 Tom Hart: Hi Harry!
01:06:00 Joseph Postman: Thanks Harry
01:07:49 Darlene Hayes: Eastman’s Forgotten Ciders in Wheeler, MI also have a large collection of red-fleshed apples.
01:07:57 William Rea: Kyle, you’re going to have issues with flesh browning with ‘red’ flesh. Don’t keep them in the fridge to minimize it.
01:09:56 Tim Makepeace: Can you talk about Roberts Crab?
01:11:37 M C: Any knowledge on Red Wonder apple? One of the few apples that I know we can grow near Winnipeg, Manitoba. (Zone 3)
01:11:48 Kyle Rasch: 90% cancer cell destruction sounds quite powerful.
Do you notice your customers are uniquely healthy?
01:17:45 Tom Hart: Good points, Alan.
01:19:40 David Fulton: +1 for Alan’s recommendations – the org that has driven most of the community orchard planting in the UK since the 80s is Common Ground – you might get some good ideas from them – they have some old (out of print) books on their community initiatives
01:20:15 Joseph Postman: Susan Dolan is giving a talk online at the Idaho Heritage Orchard conference next Wednesday. Google it for more info.
01:20:29 Mark Kurzmack: Sorry dont’ have a mic
01:22:04 William Rea: Mark, can you comment on the color of the skin or if you noticed red coloration in the leaves?
01:22:46 William Rea: If it’s non red skinned I’d wager it’s Surprise or it’s seedling.
01:23:47 Tom Hart: Hey Derek, I manage a nursery in Eureka, CA that collects Albert Etter varieties (including grafted trees from his remaining orchard stock) and local homestead/mining orchards. I have most of his variety, but I am missing a few… Any chance we can link up after the talk? I would love to complete my Etter collection. We are establishing a nonprofit and moving to a 5-acre parcel where we will be planting the nursery trees in the next few months. The orchard will be strictly educational and serve as a historical guide to apple growing on the North Coast of California.
01:25:56 Kristina Zemaite: love your passion!!!!
01:29:23 Mark Kurzmack: The apples have red skin. There are probably five or six different trees and I have gotten oral history from two different people that pretty much dates them to the 1930s. I was hoping someone would know what might have been commercially available in that time period.
01:32:40 Tim Makepeace: Derek, Can you talk about Roberts Crab?
01:34:05 Jens Breiland: Off topic, do you have any nut trees in your orchard? If so what do you think about the Livermore red skinned English walnut.
01:34:06 Joseph Postman: Any comments on inheritance of red flesh? Is it a dominant trait?
01:34:12 Elisabeth Lassanyi: Will a recording be available after the meeting?
01:34:14 Julian Garcia: Thank you!
01:36:06 Nick Z Rule: did anyone get the address of the Africa web site?
01:37:32 Andrea Fox @grwhryrpltd: @nick z rule https://kuffelcreek.com/
01:38:14 Nick Z Rule: Thanks Andrea
01:38:52 EJ: Thanks
01:39:05 contrarianfarm: Thank you! Well done!
01:39:15 Andrea Fox @grwhryrpltd: also, https://kuffelcreek.com/growingtropics.htm and their YT links here https://www.youtube.com/user/kuffelcreek
01:39:24 William Rea: That’s a bit common, one of Hansens named crosses should genetically yield red flesh, but doesn’t
01:39:27 Kyle Rasch: Gloria, What are some of your favorite red flesh apples for cider?
01:39:55 Tom Hart: Thanks, Derek!
01:42:34 Nick Z Rule: Great talk, many thanks to everyone involved.
01:42:41 Jens Breiland: Thanks Derek!
01:42:43 Jon N: Thank you Derek!
01:42:51 Leslie Wade – NAFEX Host: Thanks to everyone for participating!
01:42:55 David Fulton: Great presentation and discussion. Thanks Derek and the NAFEX team!
01:43:29 Andrea Fox @grwhryrpltd: thanks all, lots of great info and enthusiasm for all things apple 🙂
01:43:45 William Rea: High heat can degrade anthocyanin, so if you had a heat wave, maybe that caused the loss?
01:44:05 Elisabeth Lassanyi: Does anyone have experience with Redlove Era?
01:44:50 Brian Drake: sulfites apparently affect coloration in cider…
01:44:56 William Rea: They do
01:45:11 William Rea: But color can bleach even if you don’t sulfite
01:46:24 Gloria Bell: yes
01:46:51 Janet B: It was a great presentation. Thank you! Harry, thanks for reminding me that I needed to call Betty!
01:46:59 Kyle Rasch: Thank you NAFEX!
01:47:02 jeffheon: Thanks for an excellent and informative session.
01:47:09 Gloria Bell: oxidation causes brown which isn’t reversible PM mw
01:47:31 Kyle Rasch: Anywhere we can still get red flesh scions this year?
01:47:32 EJ: 🙏
01:48:08 Kristina Zemaite: thank you!!
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