Scionwood and Rootstock Preparation

Tips for Gathering, Storing and Protecting 1/31/2023

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  • 00:21:58 BarbaraR: I can’t seem to use the phone line. It says it is “full”. Do I just need to try a different number?
  • 00:23:14 Gulshan Garg: No sound
  • 00:23:16 Kris Klueg Heeter: Barbara, it might be because were are at or near capacity, which we did not expect
  • 00:23:22 Eden’s Refuge: Leslie you have to share the audio from your screen
  • 00:23:39 Tia S.: I don’t hear anything either.
  • 00:23:55 Tia S.: 👍🏽
  • 00:24:07 Eden’s Refuge: Can we start the video over?
  • 00:24:19 Juan Carlos Arango: Can you start it again?
  • 00:25:09 Tom’s iPhone: Audio is on
  • 00:26:19 Kris Klueg Heeter: We’ll provide the link to this video too, Larry has shared this through YouTube
  • 00:28:17 Gulshan Garg: How do you identify one year wood?
  • 00:28:45 Gulshan Garg: Does one year wood guidance apply to other fruit?
  • 00:30:10 Tia S.: Do you have a good resource for instructions on sharpening your pruners so you don’t damage your tree while cutting scion wood?
  • 00:30:54 Gulshan Garg: Peaches, plums
  • 00:31:04 Mary Scudder: Please put Larry on full screen if possible
  • 00:31:53 Tia S.: @Mary go to the top right of your screen and click the view button.
  • 00:32:01 Melissa: Replying to “Please put Larry on …”
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  • 00:32:13 Tia S.: Select Speaker
  • 00:32:20 Andrew Walsh: When is too late to collect scionwood?
  • 00:32:30 Andrew Walsh: How can I tell if it’s too late in the season?
  • 00:35:00 slw: I’ve heard that scionwood shouldn’t be stored in a refrigerator with apples and pears. Why not?
  • 00:35:44 Gulshan Garg: Can Dan share where he teaches grafting
  • 00:36:48 Matt.Stevens: For bench grafting, I would love to hear from the experts on using grafting knife vs using a tool (like this one https://www.grimonut.com/index.php?p=Products&category=grafting-supplies-parent). Thanks in advance for your input!
  • 00:37:09 Juan Carlos Arango: for pruning to take in consideration the moon cycles?
  • 00:37:50 Terry: Soak in water right after cutting or just before grafting?
  • 00:40:00 Leslie Wade, NAFEX Host: Regina, Dan is in Wisconsin and Larry is Mississippi. We’ll ask them.
  • 00:40:48 Tia S.: I would like a grafting knife recommendation.
  • 00:41:32 Leslie Wade, NAFEX Host: Thanks, Eden’s Refuge, that was exactly the problem on my end. We can replay it
  • 00:42:06 Tom’s iPhone: A knife you can shave hair with
  • 00:42:37 Tia S.: Which one would that be, Tom?
  • 00:43:18 Andrew Walsh: My question above is best sent to Dan, I’m in Canada, Zone 6, wondering when best to cut scionwood, and how to know when it’s getting too late to cut scionwood
  • 00:43:22 Terry: With only a small home – door opened and closed often, fridge, would it be better (possible) to store just under the soil under the snow?
  • 00:44:34 Tom’s iPhone: I use a broken off carbon steel kitchen knife as well as a folding grafting knife
  • 00:44:37 Chris Abrahamson: In SW Wisconsin 4B – what influences bloom date – the rootstock/tree or scion? Have old unknown tree that I want to topwork but it typically blossoms mid April – if I graft it will the scion then blossom with the tree or later
  • 00:44:57 Tia S.: Ok, thanks, Tom.
  • 00:45:06 Tom’s iPhone: Your just need it to be sharp
  • 00:46:15 Tom’s iPhone: I’ve even used a sharp pruner held at an angle
  • 00:47:13 Regina D: Should I cut off end buds when grafting or leave them on?
  • 00:47:31 Jorge Zaldivar: Wow 1 year..
  • 00:48:06 Andrew Walsh: Dan and Larry, what rootstocks do you work with most? What are your favourites?
  • 00:48:27 EJ: Is there a transcript available?
  • 00:48:31 Dan Bussey: Cut the very end of the graft you want to use until you seen green wood. Then youre ok
  • 00:49:25 Regina D: I like to wrap my scions with parafilm and label them prior to grafting. Then I just have to cut the grafting end and wrap the graft. I feel like the graft stays in place better when wrapped early.
  • 00:50:26 David Fulton: love the slightly damp peat moss idea, Dan for keeping mold out of the ziplock bags. will definitely give that a try. Would you still double bag in that case?
  • 00:50:48 Terry: For 1 year wood, the terminal bud scar closest to the tip, a line the encircles the diameter is a good method to id it.
  • 00:52:39 Tia S.: Is that an Exacto?
  • 00:53:18 David’s iPad: Greetings from Madison Wi, (30 m from edgerton) Where in Wisconsin do you get varieties?
  • 00:54:32 Andrew Walsh: What’s the brand and model of the 5 ft pole cutters?
  • 00:55:42 Tia S.: Thank you for the knife tips!
  • 00:55:51 Larry (he/him) & Jenniffer (she/her): Fiskars, common at hardware stores.
  • 00:56:43 Jorge Zaldivar: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Anvil-18-mm-and-9-mm-Snap-Off-Knife-Set-2-Piece-86-212-0111/303711777
  • 00:56:52 Matt.Stevens: thank you for the tip on on tools!
  • 00:57:28 Regina D: ARS long handled pruners are excellent too
  • 00:57:32 Larry (he/him) & Jenniffer (she/her): Seedling apple, callery pear, native persiommon and mulberry seedlings.
  • 00:57:49 Jorge Zaldivar: ARS is from Japan great saws. Castellari from Italy as well
  • 00:57:59 Adam D’Angelo: What is your preferred tape for grafting?
  • 00:59:13 Larry (he/him) & Jenniffer (she/her): Buddy tape.
  • 00:59:28 Regina D: Parafilm M
  • 01:01:30 Larry (he/him) & Jenniffer (she/her): CO2 from fresh fruit will inspire budding.
  • 01:01:59 bill Sorenson: Hello from Canada! Anyone know a good source of 1/2″ parafilm tape?
  • 01:03:35 Colleen Dieter: Is there a problem with grafting new branches onto established trees outdoors if there is still freezing weather on the way?
  • 01:04:09 John Lenart: From a super northern perspective, I have to cut wood in the late fall, October here, to avoid cutting cold/freeze damaged wood. Then chill them for the winter.
  • 01:05:48 iPad: One tool that I made that has saved many an emergency room visit is a guard I made from a cheap thin flexible Teflon cutting board which I cut a round 4” circle from and then drill a 1/2” hole in the center. I put it over the rootstock set, so when I make the back cut during a whip and tongue graft in case the blade slips and goes too far towards my thumb. Do you guys have any special tools that you’ve made like this?
  • 01:06:26 Melissa: Does anyone have a recommendation on where to source rootstock from?
  • 01:07:02 Charlotte Rosendahl: Larry, does your rootstock leaf out before grafting?
  • 01:09:32 iPhone (3)marge Iaizzo: Perhaps a silly question, but do you only graft a mulberry to another type of mulberry
  • 01:09:45 Don Holeman: For stone fruit, especially cherry, check out the videos posted by Ken Coates, a professional grafter in Washington State. These videos comprise an encyclopedia of grafting with a lot of tips on taking scionwood. https://www.youtube.com/@allaboutgrafting5120/videos
  • 01:10:09 Regina D: Some recommend dipping scions in dilute bleach solution. Do either of you recommend it?
  • 01:11:54 Mark Wolbers: Most disinfectants need to be in contact with the tool for a period, usually at least a minute, to fully work.
  • 01:12:00 Tia S.: I use a small spray bottle of alcohol.
  • 01:12:26 Tia S.: They sell them at dollar stores.
  • 01:13:00 Jack: California Rare Fruit Growers sell Bantex Safety Tape at their scion exchanges for protecting your fingers when grafting. It sticks to itself and is supposed to be waterproof.
  • 01:14:39 BarbaraR: For pruning “by the stars” I use Maria Thun’s Biodynamic Almanac. Very helpful.
  • 01:15:20 Jorge Zaldivar: Tropical weather Zone 9A buddy tape is great
  • 01:15:23 Jack: Check out Steven Edholm’s Skillcult video “Grafting with Household Supplies”, Simple works!
  • 01:15:57 Jorge Zaldivar: 9A-10B
  • 01:16:35 Javier Rivera: FL is a whole different animal, though.
  • 01:17:20 Colleen Dieter: Thank you! I’m in Austin Texas so they start budding out in early March but great to know I could go later too.
  • 01:17:57 David Fulton: when I see the little mouse ears of leaves on the rootstock and dandelions blooming – that’s my cue to field graft 🙂
  • 01:18:39 Colleen Dieter: Wonderful tip! Thank you!
  • 01:18:46 David’s iPad: If you field graft several types on a tree, What is your favorite way to label the variety? (apple)
  • 01:19:53 Jorge Zaldivar: Great idea to increase capacity!
  • 01:20:07 Terry: With a 4 inch rootstock – would you cleft graft or a bark graft – maybe they are called rind?
  • 01:21:00 Tia S.: How do you use it?
  • 01:21:03 Melissa: Can Dan share where he sources his rootstock?
  • 01:21:12 Javier Rivera: I made mine from 4 layers of solid cardboard. Have used it for 2 years and still going strong!
  • 01:23:53 Javier Rivera: Some people do it with hydrogen peroxide.
  • 01:25:06 Gary Smith: I have a number of 7 year old trees that I want to cut off at 3 ft. and top work to more desirable varieties. When should I do that? Northern Iowa
  • 01:25:22 mike: do you recomend chip budding for later season apple grafts
  • 01:27:58 Mike Garvey: can you comment on bud grafting?
  • 01:28:15 Andrew Walsh: Do you guys have experience with chip hud grafting? If so, how can I tell if a chip graft has taken? I was told chip grafts can stick and still fail. Any thoughts?
  • 01:28:21 Andrew Walsh: Chip bud**
  • 01:28:48 iPad: In regards to YouTube Channels, the channel that has taught me the most are the videos from the channel: JSacadura which is unparalleled when it comes to grafting techniques and tips. They’re excellent!
  • 01:29:32 Randall White: Reacted to “In regards to YouTub…” with 👍
  • 01:31:54 Jack: One mostly approved labeling system for identifying varieties on trees utilizes vinyl siding from construction waste. (The smooth kind.) Write on it with a number 2 pencil and don’t smudge it. A Sharpie Will Fade! Drill a hole in the strip of siding and attach a wire so it can be hung loosely on a branch.
  • 01:33:02 Tia S.: Reacted to “In regards to YouTub…” with 👍
  • 01:33:50 Mark Wolbers: Self-sticking electrical tape: Linerless splicing tape. However, it does not break down as quickly as parafilm.
  • 01:35:18 Terry: Do watersprouts produce a vegetative tree rather than a more fruitful tree?
  • 01:35:53 Regina D: Do you recommend waiting longer (later) to graft stonefruit vs apples and pears?
  • 01:36:00 Dan Bussey: watersprouts will make fruitful trees
  • 01:36:31 Colleen Dieter: If you are short on rootstock is there anything wrong with trying to root scions and grow them on their own roots i.e. not grafting them?
  • 01:36:34 Terry: Cut those throwaway aluminum plates and cut to size for labels.
  • 01:36:44 Colleen Dieter: Reacted to “Cut those throwaway …” with ❤️
  • 01:37:50 Mark Wolbers: Labeling with aluminum tags is best. I just label grafts at first with masking tape until it is known that the graft has taken and survived the first winter.
  • 01:37:59 Jack: You can shallowly bury any plastic nursery tag at the base of a tree as insurance. It will remain legible.
  • 01:38:34 Don Holeman: Michigan State University has released it’s Corette super dwarfing cherry rootstocks to the general public. They are hard to find but you can buy bulk from North American Plants in Oregon. I have all of them and will be pruning shortly if anyone wants to get in touch.
  • 01:38:57 Eden’s Refuge: Writing with something pointy on thin aluminum works really well (cans, thin flashing, etc)
  • 01:39:04 iPad: The nursery and the orchard should always have a map that you update regularly, tags will fail, fade and get lost
  • 01:39:04 Leslie Wade, NAFEX Host: Thanks Don!
  • 01:39:24 Tia S.: Pretty cool, Javier!
  • 01:39:56 michael: I’ll cut up soda cans into strips, and imprint/write the name on the aluminum while it resting on a magazine or mouse pad. It allows for a nice imprint.
  • 01:39:58 Don Holeman: djholeman1@gmail.com
  • 01:40:34 bill Sorenson: rootstock varieties!
  • 01:40:40 Javier Rivera: Growing Apple Trees in Warm Climates
  • 01:40:47 Douglas Cook: Bush cherries
  • 01:41:01 Suzanne Werner: Pest control! IPM and Spray Schedules
  • 01:41:06 McPhailMac: Thank you for setting this up! Very informative!
  • 01:41:10 mike: eleagnus!
  • 01:41:17 michael: New or novel ways of animal damage prevention other than fencing.
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  • 01:41:35 BarbaraR: Thanks for everything!
  • 01:41:35 Elisabeth Lassanyi: Maybe do a collaboration with California Rare Fruit Growers
  • 01:41:38 Colleen Dieter: Reacted to “Growing Apple Trees …” with 👌
  • 01:41:52 mike: eleagnus
  • 01:42:11 Suzanne Werner: will this be available as a video recording for those of us who missed the first half?
  • 01:42:41 mike: crab apples?
  • 01:42:49 Chris Abrahamson: Thanks for all the info and the work getting this meetings coordinated
  • 01:43:21 Colleen Dieter: Thank you to the organizers! This was wonderful.
  • 01:43:34 Tia S.: Thank you Dan and Larry!
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